NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC
Below is a letter addressed to the Talaya brothers from Grandmaster Eduardo Ceniza
Attention:
Jorge Talaya
Lazaro Talaya
The Filipino Martial Arts, while not having a set of rules and guidelines, adheres to the ideals of other Eastern arts, including but not limited to the following: respect and deference to one’s Guro, faithfulness and purity to the art, and preservation of Filipino culture and history. As such, our esteemed organization, Baraw Sugbo, seeks to emulate these ideals, and to call out actions which run contrary to these. It has come to my attention that you have breached the aforementioned ideals because of your following actions:
- Creating and marketing a different name for Baraw Sugbo
- Non-acknowledgment of my lineage
- Questionable certification of students
- Conducting seminars without prior approval
- Using Baraw Sugbo for commercial purposes (i.e. mass DVD production and distribution, seminars)
- Incorporation of Baraw Sugbo methodologies into another art without permission
While Baraw Sugbo is meant to be shared, there are ideals which must be upheld, in deference to my ancestors who have conceptualized, refined, and even given their lives in the practice of this art.
Due to this serious breach of trust, you are to cease and desist immediately from using the name Baraw Sugbo a.k.a. Arnes Diablo. You are also stricken off from the list of authorized representatives of Baraw Sugbo a.k.a. Arnes Diablo.
– Grandmaster Eduardo Ceniza
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This is the true
No more cowards fake persons
Gran Maestro/ Master?
I received a letter sent by the “Gran Maestro” that says that my brother Lázaro and myself have been expelled from the Baraw Sugbo.
What an announcement! A stab in the back, as Eduardo’s claim is based on false reasons that sound somewhat weird considering the circumstances that preceded this announcement.
I proceed to explain the different points of his statement:
1.- He claims that we have created a different Marketing to Baraw Sugbo.
It must be some 9 years that we have known Eduardo and so it is clear to see on our social media tools i.e. You Tube and Facebook, that we have always used the name and the logo-shield of Baraw Sugbo, up until some 2 years ago when we started to use the original ancient Spanish name of Arnes Diablo. I discussed this personally in Cebu with Eduardo, who was obviously happy with this and also with the logo we were using. We specifically refer to comments he made himself on our social media publications of our events in Paris, Brussels, Portugal, etc where one can clearly read “Great work Lázaro and Jorge”, “Great group”, “Congratulations”, etc. So, why now does he act in this way?
2.-He is condemning the production and commercial rights of the Baraw Sugbo DVD as if they had been done behind his back, yet when this was recorded on the Camotes Islands Eduardo was grateful and eager to see how this production could aid to give the method global exposure. All this was at no cost at all to him as all expenses incurred on Camotes were completely covered i.e. hotels, food ,etc
Therefore on top of receiving 10.000 pesos on the DVD’s and another 15 copies that he himself sold and kept the proceeds, for doing nothing at all I would like to ask him now how can it be that he is condemning this? Where are your values? What kind of a person are you? Or is it that you only show them when you are taking and money is being placed in your hands? So if you are now condemning the DVD then please return the money. We are looking at money and effort that came from us.
3.- Another curios matter is that he is condemning the Certificates that we issue to our pupils. Again, we certainly do not recall any complaints whatsoever when over various years he has gladly received, with a great smile on his face, 5000 pesos from my own hand for such certificates.
What kind of person are you? Where are your values, `Great Master´? Where do the values stand ´Great Master¨? So if you condemn the certificates then please return the monies that came from our pupils’ pockets and that you took, for nothing, without even blinking an eye-lid.
I am very respectful when it comes to work so therefore I will not mention your classes, but I would like all to know now, that we have made you a lot of money year in, year out when we have been training with you and bring new pupils every year in order to try and promote and help you in many ways.
4.- To condemn the seminar I arranged and taught in Manila which everybody must know that Eduardo was aware of that seminar over a week before it took place, we even spoke about it on Messenger (I have the text) and he said absolutely nothing against it or made no alternative proposal. Therefore it would perhaps have been better to have been honest and open and ask me not to do it. As easy as that!
Yet after years of what I considered Friendship he condemns it and we get expelled from the organization. Bravo for the Great Maestro…What kind of a human being are you¿ Where are your values? What you have done is considered to be conduct of a bad person, you must be proud of that.
Another strange one was when I was training with him he knew I was organizing Manila, as he sent to Manila my Instructor certificate and 3 days later he expelled us from his organization, with not even a word.
Such an disrespectful man, before becoming a ‘Gran Maestro’ you should behave first like a man and forget the back-stabbing. The whole of the seminar attendants saw what happened and witnessed the long days patiently. At the Seminar I started talking about the history of the system and I also recommend for everybody to go and train with him in Cebu.
Concluding, we have seen for ourselves what kind of a person Eduardo is, and some egotistical person who is with him, therefore we feel very happy not to belong to this organization at all.
Rome pays no traitors.
Check GM Ceniza’s reply to these very arrogant Talaya Brothers
https://arnesdiablo.org/talaya-brothers-abhorrent-response-and-harrassment/
Arrogant?
Is only the true Sir and he knows
Maybe need ask why take the money and after condem
That is be fake and snatcher